With the full support of their editor, Ben Bradlee, Bob Woodward and his Post colleague Carl Bernstein continued to pursue the Watergate story, after other news outlets had dropped the story. It still runs on television, is played widely in journalism schools and often is used as shorthand in high schools to teach about one of the most corrupt times in U.S. politics. The Post editors concluded that he was not ready for a major metropolitan daily newspaper, and arranged for him to take job as one of four reporters at a small suburban weekly, The Montgomery County Sentinel. I would have summer jobs, while my parents and other siblings would go on vacation, for instance. Do you see President Clintons impeachment related to Watergate? Bob Woodward: Sure. I had fallen in love with some books at a younger age like Swiss Family Robinson, adventure stories, but I tried to read Crime and Punishment, and read some other books, and then in high school I took a course reading books, and that really kind of focused me on the value of a book. He wanted to understand Woodward and Bernstein deeply so he could capture their true characters and motivations for the movie. Staggering snowfall in California mountains leaves residents trapped for days, SpaceX launches new crew to space station, Prosecution wraps case at Alex Murdaugh murder trial, White House cybersecurity strategy pivots to regulation, Explosive found in checked luggage at Pennsylvania airport, feds say, FDA authorizes first at-home test for both COVID and flu, Couple accuses fertility clinic of implanting embryo with cancer genes, Air Force relieves six officers after failing safety inspection, Several hospitalized after Lufthansa flight diverted to Dulles due to turbulence. The distinct memories I have of books are from college. And I think that they knew that each of them had strengths that the other didn't, and they relied on one another. The burglary was revealed as part of an extensive program of political espionage and sabotage run by Nixon subordinates at the White House and its political campaign organization, the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CRP, or, as referred to in most later press coverage, CREEP). Bob Woodward: Oh, yes. "Woodward and Bernstein Carl Milton Bernstein[1] (/brnstin/ BURN-steen; born February 14, 1944) is an American investigative journalist and author. One morning in June of 71 I think, they led the newspaper with it, with eight-column banners. Mr. Woodward, there were mistakes made during Watergate, you have said in the book. They said, Keep going. Watergate reporters come together to discuss the 40-year-old scandal which resulted in the resignation of President Richard Nixon. It was already changing, but he certainly speeded it along. NEW YORK . He just had a psychosis about being controlled by authority figures. Theres so much richness in his language, its almost the opposite of journalistic writing. Bob Woodward: Of course. They were tireless young reporters, fearless and not intimidated by the very powerful people they were investigating. So in an odd way, those in my business have a million allies out there. He was not lazy, she insisted. He started working for the Washington Post in 1971, nine months before the Watergate break-in. Hed started at age two, I think. . Most of them didnt realize that the world had changed. Make no mistake (as Nixon himself was fond of saying), what Woodward and Bernstein accomplished from 1972 to 1974 was incredible and deserving of all the accolades they received at the time. Most of us had quite fancy security clearances in that capacity. While Bernstein was surprised by how mythical Deep Throat became in American pop culture, he remains as much of a part of the Watergate story as Woodward and Bernstein. I want to offer some ideas. [3] The Star, however, unofficially required a college degree to write for the paper. A year later, he was back at the Post, and at age 29 found himself in the middle of one of the biggest stories of the century. You want to deal a careful glancing blow. The Watergate scandal may officially date to June 17, 1972, but August 8, 1974 was truly the night they drove ol' Dixie down, as it were; I watched with a sense of awe and disbelief on a 13-inch black-and-white set as our President Nixon resigned, refusing to go to bed, watching his "political obituary" until they finally signed off and played the Star Spangled Banner at 2 a.m. By the time the movie of "All the President's Men" -- the tale of how Washington Post reporters Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward broke some of the big stories of Watergate -- hit the theaters, I was 17 and seeing it with my first girlfriend. There was competition. He is the author or co-author of seven books: All the President's Men, The Final Days, and The Secret Man, with Bob Woodward; His Holiness: John Paul II and the History of Our Time, with Marco Politi; Loyalties; A Woman in Charge: The Life of Hillary Rodham Clinton;[3] and Chasing History, a memoir of his early years in journalism. Therefore, that information is unavailable for most Encyclopedia.com content. Was he the more experienced journalist at the time? .component--type-recirculation .item:nth-child(5) { I think pride is hubris. head of the CRP. The movie, which was released in April 1976 and starred Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman, was relentlessly media-centric, ignoring the work of prosecutors and the FBI. How do I pay someone back, either good or bad, for what they have done to me?. Woodward and Bernstein never disclosed any information or provided hints about Deep Throat and spoke about him in vague terms in their book, "All the President's Men.". Thanks to their investigation and reporting, the American people had a deep look into Nixon's role in the break-ins and cover-ups. It was inconceivable that Nixon wasnt. After the clapping died down, Woodward observed, "There was lots of applause, but it wasn't universal.". What it turned out was that the question hinged on whether or not he had told that to the grand jury, and since he hadnt, he was able to say No. He wasnt asked was there a slush fund, which, of course, there was. I can't tell you how many times back then that Americans -- looking for a silver lining in the cloud of Watergate -- uttered this phrase: "The system worked." Fresh out of the Navy, Bob Woodward washed out in his first attempt to work for The Washington Post, and went to work for a tiny suburban weekly. My father was a lawyer there, and I worked as a janitor in his law office when I was in high school, and started reading the files and discovered that the projection that people in the town made about their own lives was in fact not who they were, that lots of them had secrets, and many of them were in my fathers law office files. Alicia Shepard fills in the gaps in her very candid book, "Woodward and Bernstein: Life in the Shadow of Watergate.". The judge said, What do you do? and Woodward overheard the words CIA. So if your interest isnt whetted by this time, youre not a journalist. He went to jail for that. Bob Woodward: As defendants, as tax cases, divorce cases, the full catastrophe of litigation. He sat down with Woodward, then 32, Bernstein, then 31, their editors, their friends and the two women at the center of the reporters lives. John Dean's afternoon testimony before the Senate Watergate committee, the crest of a high and beautiful wave.", They wrote that history has shown that Watergate was even worse than we thought it was at the time, they seemed blind to the reality that Felt wasn't motivated by an altruistic loyalty to the nation or the truth but by blind career ambition and petty revenge, we've seen a president who WASN'T impeached for evading Congress to cut secret arms deals in Iran and fund a secret war in Nicaragua, Bob Woodward was at the very head of that pack. Were you in intelligence? They had a much-publicized extramarital relationship in 1979. It was embarrassing that they had this great story and we didnt. It took a long time, and if you examine the sequence, you could identify hundreds of points where the road to full disclosure would have been the thread would have been cut. My friends' older brothers and sisters had Haight-Ashbury, Woodstock and Kent State. Redford can get that compulsive drive. Bob Woodward: In the family I was raised in: a brother, a sister, two stepsisters, a half-sister. In The Last of the Presidents Men, Woodward told the story of Alexander Butterfield, the White House aide who disclosed the existence of President Nixons secret recording system, the revelation that ultimately led to Nixons downfall. Encyclopedias almanacs transcripts and maps. Mr. Woodward, there is an interesting scene in the book and in the film All the Presidents Men where you tap out a story and Carl Bernstein immediately starts rewriting it, and youre miffed. It was one of those families that was glued together.. I say we publish it. And three of the journalists all hung up immediately, because we didnt want any we had what we came for, and we didnt want to let her change her mind. On stage, Dean Martin was the suave crooner while Jerry Lewis was the lovable buffoon. They were the first to reveal the tapes, and they were always ahead of the curve, but there was a lot of great reporting done by other people, Sy Hersh, the Los Angeles Times, they all did really good work. Hes a reporter doll. Overnight, Woodward and Bernstein became household names. How old were you at the time of that break-in? Nixon Exceptionalism and the triumph of objectivity kept a focus on "what did the president know and when did he know it," the provable fact-based lie, liberated from anything that might be corrupted by debatable policy or ideas. Thats a quote from the movie and the book. Mr. Woodward, theres a last question wed like to ask. It looked like I was going to become a lawyer, and my father to a certain extent was my model. One was Woodward and Bernsteins All the Presidents Men, the well-timed memoir about their reporting. We made one mistake in a story in which we said that Woodward and Bernstein said that there was a slush fund of $300,000 set up in the Committee to Re-elect the President, and it was controlled by Haldeman, and that one of the witnesses had testified to that slush fund to the grand jury investigating Watergate. Mr. Woodward, at what point did you realize that President Nixon was implicated in this? The tapes incontrovertibly showed that he had participated in an attempt to obstruct justice from as early as six days after the Watergate burglary. The processes that caused [Nixons] resignation were constitutional., Grahams words, however accurate and incisive, scarcely altered the dominant popular interpretation of Watergate. 22 Feb. 2023 . Thats an astonishing thing for a journalist to say. He was affectionately known as "Uncle Al" and had many sources in police departments. Passion and obsession intertwine in Fire of Love, With characters wise and reassuring, animated short The Boy, the Mole comforts. And we published the next day. In January 1975, five months after President Nixon had resigned, Pakula flew to Washington to begin in-depth interviews with a dozen of the principals involved in unraveling the Watergate tale. A drone. So we started phrasing it close to resignation, and debating resignation, and then, finally, we learned that I think he was going to do it at nine oclock at night, or eight oclock at night. So we did, and there was no threat to the national security, and information, truth, is not a threat to security, and we believed that. [26] Bernstein and second wife Ephron already had an infant son, Jacob, and she was pregnant with their second son, Max, in 1979 when she learned of her husband's affair with Jay. Woodward, Carl Bernstein and Ben Bradlee all confirmed Felts revelation. However popular, the heroic-journalist myth is a vast exaggeration of the effect of their work. We want to thank you for talking with us today. Bob Woodward: Well, we looked at it differently. You get to see other peoples lives, and you chart the rise and fall of others, and youre not that involved. He joined the Washington Post's metropolitan staff in 1966, specializing in police, court, and city hall assignments, with occasional self-assigned feature stories. The reporters were all there, and the editors were there, working on the copy, and there was some guy writing for the next morning. If anything, the intervening 25 years have solidified the heroic-journalist myth of Watergate, which I address and dismantle in my book Getting It Wrong: Debunking the Greatest Myths in American Journalism.. An informant in the federal government, it was not until 2005 that the public finally put a name on Deep Throat. In addition to the espionage and sabotage, another series of felonies stemmed from the attempt to cover up the earlier crimes by perjury and other obstructions of justice. 2019Encyclopedia.com | All rights reserved. In those days, you worried terribly about typos. What were they doing? Together, they followed the story and co-wrote the best-seller, "All the President's Men.". Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Instead, they wrote 'All the President's Men' and they sold the movie rights to Robert Redford. You mentioned Faulkner. He was a much better writer. Max Frankel, chief of the Washington bureau at the NY Times, famously blocked coverage after hearing from the White House that it wasn't a story, even though they had confirmation early on from FBI . He said, Youre crazy. So he didnt think it was a good idea.. Ben Bradlee: John Mitchell, Attorney General Mitchell. What was that about? She posed this, almost suggesting that it was inevitable. 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